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Emaildelivery.com Documentation
EmailDelivery.com
  • FAQ
    • ✍️FAQ
    • 🎬Explainer Video
    • 🤳Why go self-hosted?
    • 🌋Recommended VPS
    • Ⓜ️Velocity MTA FAQ
    • 🌴Amazon SES production access
    • 👋From the founder
  • Features List
    • 🖌️ESP Features
      • 🟢Pabbly Connect
      • 🪝Event Webhooks
    • 🎨Delivery Features
  • install
    • 🤓Racknerd Installation
    • 👩‍💻Generic VPS Installation
    • 🌊Installation video for Digital Ocean droplets
    • 🧠Advanced Installation
  • Common installation issues
    • 🙅Don't use sudo
    • ✋Bind: address already in use
    • 👬Resolving port conflicts with a second IP
    • 😑Hostinger is your registrar
    • 💪Use the ARM build for AArch64/ARM64 CPUs
    • ⭕Oracle Cloud / Amazon Lightsail: "bind cannot assign requested address 8025"
    • 🔗Links in email messages are doing something unexpected
  • Post Installation
    • 🔺Upgrade instructions
    • 💾Backup and Restore
    • 🐳Docker Information
    • 🪵Logging
    • 🚚Moving to a new server
    • 📇Changing the installation domain
    • 🎟️Reset lost administrator password
    • ♻️How to reinstall
    • 🔑Add our SSH keys for support
  • options for adding https
    • 🔐Free Native SSL via Let's Encrypt
    • 🔐Adding HTTPS to email message links
    • 🔐Cloudflare as SSL proxy
    • 📮Transactional SMTP Relay requirements for Cloudflare
    • 🚧Troubleshooting common SSL issues
    • 🔏Native SSL via ZeroSSL
  • Introduction
    • 👥Backend, Frontend, Customers, Users
    • 🧑‍🏫What you can do in the emaildelivery.com backend
    • 👩‍💻Getting ready to send
    • 🔗Understanding the 'White Label Tracking Link'
    • ⚡Connect SMTP Relay
    • 🔌Connect Mailgun API
    • 🔌Connect Sparkpost API
    • 🔌Connect Amazon SES API
    • 📮Postal Routes
    • 📬Send a test message
  • Common email setup issues
    • 🎭"Unconfigured sending domain" during test message
    • 😶Campaign stats are blank
  • Solutions and guides
    • 🌴Getting approved for Amazon SES production access
    • 🔍Google Postmaster Tools
  • Backend Administration
    • ™️Change your logo and favicon
    • 🖍️Change your colors and theme using Custom CSS
    • 🔓Password reset configuration
    • 🖥️Creating Customer Accounts
    • 💻Creating User accounts
    • 🖼️Create default email templates
    • 📋Create default subscriber form templates
    • 🧹Purging mail queues
    • 👥Logging in to the email marketing frontend
    • ⚙️Frontend Settings
      • Profile tab
      • Broadcast alert thresholds
      • Default send limits
      • Header template
    • 📰Customer broadcast report
    • 🆕Changelog
  • Integrations
    • 🟢Pabbly Connect
    • 🟥Zapier
    • 🪝Event webhooks
    • 🅰️API
    • 🖼️Integrating Pixabay into your email campaigns
    • 🏋️WordPress
  • Advanced postal route configuration
    • 🤹‍♂️Contact list domain routing
    • ⚖️Load balancing
  • Control your sending speed
    • 🚦Domain throttles
  • Transactional
    • 🧾Transactional API
    • 📮Transactional SMTP Relay
    • ✅Transactional SMTP Relay: steps to start sending
    • 📁Transactional templates
    • 🏷️Transactional tags
    • 🧀Use SWAKS for testing and troubleshooting
  • What you need to know before you install Velocity MTA
    • 🚫The ESP Platform IP can't be used with the MTA
    • ☝️PTR Records and Reverse DNS
    • 🧬Sending Domain and PTR must match
    • 🔍Google Postmaster Tools
    • 🔗MTA link domain points to the sending IP, not the ESP IP
    • 🤝How to use Velocity MTA as an SMTP Relay
  • 🚀Velocity MTA BASICS
    • 👨‍💻Getting ready to send
    • 🪵Velocity.log is vital to your success
    • 💽Installing Velocity MTA
    • ⚠️Common installation issues
    • ⭕Oracle Cloud and Amazon Lightsail issues
      • 🧑‍🏫What you can do with an MTA Delivery Policy
    • 🦾Adding a server in the backend UI
      • 🔌Server Connect MTA Tab
    • 🆔Configure DKIM
    • 🧙Creating an MTA Delivery Policy
      • Domains Page
      • Settings Page
      • Deferrals Page
      • Servers Page
      • Pushing MTA Policy Changes
    • 📮Create a Postal Route
    • 📬Sending your first test message
    • 🤖IP Warmup automation
    • 🥺Asking major mailbox providers for a reprieve
  • Velocity MTA Solutions
    • 🔐Adding HTTPS to Velocity MTA email message links
    • 👨‍🏫Adding a new dedicated IP to a customer account
    • 🌡️How to warm up a new IP
    • 🕊️Using Dovecot for IMAP
  • 📚Velocity MTA Continuing Education
    • 😡Complaint Feedback Loops
    • 📊IP Delivery Reports
    • 🚦Mail queue management
    • 📥Incoming email MX server
    • ⚔️Customizing delivery for large mailbox providers
    • 🐳Docker information
    • 🧀Troubleshooting with SWAKS
    • 📋Comprehensive CFL / FBL list
  • Troubleshooting MTA related errors in the email marketing interface
    • ⁉️HTTPConnectionPool Max retries exceeded with url: /settings
  • Troubleshooting common issues in the email marketing interface
    • ⁉️Campaign stats are blank
    • ⁉️Pabbly connection errors
    • ⁉️API connections are failing
    • ⁉️The API docs page is blank
    • ⁉️Form submission says Error
    • ⁉️Images are not displaying
  • What to know before using the email marketing platform
    • 📇Contact lists use a flexible architecture
    • 📋Properties are created dynamically
    • 🆔You can personalize on all properties and in URLs
    • 🚮Unsubscribes, complaints, and bounces are account-wide
    • 🎨Drag and drop, WYSIWYG, raw HTML, and reusing templates
    • 🚦You can throttle your sending for each postal route
  • Contact list management
    • ➕Create a contact list
    • ♻️Resubscribe after an unsubscribe
    • 👓List X-Ray
    • 🏷️Contact Tags Manager
    • ⬇️Export your contact list
    • 🚫Uploading a suppression list
    • ⚠️Large suppression files
    • ⛔Exclusion Lists
    • 🇪🇺GDPR Delete & Export
  • Segmenting
    • 🧑‍🏫What you can do with segments
    • ➕Create a segment
    • 🧱Designing your segment
    • 🏷️Tag contacts in a segment
    • ⬇️Export a Segment's Contacts
    • 🆎A/B test using segments
  • Broadcasts
    • 🧑‍🏫What you can do with broadcasts
    • ➕Create a Broadcast
    • ⚙️Broadcast Settings
    • ⌨️Choosing your email composer
    • 🗣️Augment your subject line with a preheader
    • 📬Adding your recipients
    • ⏲️Schedule your Broadcast
    • 🔂Resend to non-openers automation
    • 📰Broadcast Reporting
    • 👯‍♀️Duplicate a broadcast
    • 🏷️Tag contacts who Open your broadcast
    • 💫Resume an incomplete broadcast
    • ⬇️Export Broadcast Openers & Unsubscribes
    • 🛑Cancel a broadcast
    • 🔗Cancel a broadcast funnel trigger
    • 🔧Revise tagging and funnel triggers for sent broadcasts
  • Using the integrated beefree.io email composer
    • 🦶Editing the sticky footer
  • Using the legacy drag & drop email composer
    • ⌨️The Basics
    • 🛠️Component Section Toolbar
    • 🏛️Designing your email - Using Columns
    • 🦶Footer
    • 🐦Social Media Component
  • Funnels
    • 🧑‍🏫What you can do with funnels
    • ➕Create a funnel
    • 🪆Choosing your funnel type
    • 🆔From Name & From Email - editing
    • ⚡Activating your funnel
    • 🔗Trigger an email funnel from a broadcast
    • 🏷️Tag contacts who open your funnel messages
    • ⌨️Choosing your email composer
    • 🗣️Augment your subject line with a preheader
    • 🤖Design your automated email sequence
    • 🚫Contact Suppression and Exclusion
    • 🖇️Adding a funnel to an opt-in subscriber form
  • Subscriber opt-in forms
    • 🧑‍🏫What you can do with forms
    • ➕Create an opt-in form
    • 2️⃣2⃣ Sending to double opt-in contacts
    • 📋Choosing your form type: floating bars, lightboxes,inline naked embedded, slide outs
    • 🔙Exit intent and display rules
    • 📋Adding email and name input boxes to your form
    • Setting the size of your form
    • 📱Configuring how your form displays on mobile devices
    • 📲Configuring your mobile width
    • ✖️Add a close window X to your form
    • ⛔Adding a "No" button that closes your form
    • 🏷️Tag subscribers who opt-in to your form
    • 🙅‍♀️Adding "no thanks" text which closes your form
    • 🔣View your form conversion rate
    • 🔗Connect an existing form to your account
    • 🕸️Adding your form to your website
    • 🤖Add opt-in subscribers to an automated email sequence
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To try and get at the heart of your question, here's some context about the business behind all of this:

First example:

We are pretty comparable to an expensive SaaS called Ongage.

I say expensive because although their lowest tier on their pricing page is technically $399/mo, I've never spoken to anyone who ends up spending less than $2500/mo with them, that's the lowest number I've ever heard of which was just from one person, usually it's something like $4000.

Ongage has lots of upsells locks and limitations on everything and anything you can think of down to the number of database fields you can have, to be able to use more than one SMTP connection you instantly go from $399 to $949.

Our first pilot customers for this self-hosted product were people using Ongage who were spending something like $40,000+ a year with Ongage who could do the same thing with our product for a $399 or $999 lifetime software license.

If you are good at sales and customer acquisition, that's the difference between what our product costs and what you can earn from it with just one customer.

Second example:

This is about a customer who was using an ESP whose name I decided to edit out of this post.

A few years ago I heard the CEO of this ESP say their average customer spends six figures a year with them, just to give you some context for the customer sizes they deal with here.

This customer was spending less than 3k/mo at around $1/CPM so this is probably considered "a small customer" by this ESP's standards.

The ESP was treating this customer pretty badly.

The customer was on an awful IP pool with no attention being paid to their delivery at all.

For example, it seemed like every other campaign they sent, almost all of their yahoo/aol would bounce despite these domains being a very large % of their list. There were generally a lot of obvious problems in their account you could see right away as soon as you logged in.

The customer understood "my email ROI has dropped in half" but they didn't understand why. They weren't the type of marketer who digs through reporting and analytics, all they know is that they used to send their email campaigns and get good results and now they don't anymore. When they talk to their ESP about this, they're told everything is fine on the ESP side of things, they must be doing something wrong as a sender.

The customer switched from going direct to the ESP to a reseller / agency of the exact same ESP they were already using but receiving poor service from.

The agency has their own IP pool and backend management with the ESP, so the customer gets the same UI they've been using for 7 years, but now they get concierge service and put on an IP pool with better delivery that people are actually paying attention to.

After going through a 3 week long sale process with the agency, this customer ended up paying $2700 just to get in the door with them.

At this type of ESP, the agency reselling the ESP might be paying a CPM anywhere in the range of 25 cents to 80 cents depending on the size of their commitment/contract, then the agency charges the customer a CPM anywhere from 80 cents to $1.25 due to the concierge attention and attempts being made by the agency to guarantee some level of delivery quality.

"Doing sales" is also a big factor here or maybe the biggest factor, I'm sure the agency makes various questionable claims about the things the agency can do differently than going direct to the ESP, bottom line is the agency just convinces you to buy them instead of buying something else.

During the same month this customer was making this transition, they also bought a $399 lifetime license, connected it to a new SparkPost account where they prepaid for a .50 cent CPM plan, and started sending their 120 day openers and clickers from their original ESP account on their emaildelivery.com platform. SparkPosts delivery is great especially when you win the IP pool lottery with them, so their open rate/CTR was off the charts compared to the bad IP pool they were on at their original ESP.

If they had come to me first before the other agency, and I was running an agency instead of a software company, I could have brokered the 50 cent SparkPost CPM to them myself for 90 cents which would be cheaper than they were paying for the original ESP account with the bad delivery, except now their delivery would be exceptional, for less money, and they would have no idea this was just a self-hosted software platform with a SparkPost account running on a $20 dedicated VPS at digital ocean.

If I were the agency in that scenario, their account size would be $1000-$1500 profit per month, instead of a one time profit of $399 which is the cost of the lowest tier license outside of AppSumo that they purchased.

To your other question on support, we have no idea if you're asking us for yourself or for your customer, however if a bunch of support tickets came in from the same person that all seemed like they didn't want to do the research to learn the software for themselves to field their own customers questions, we would probably point out to them that this was unreasonable.

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